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“Viewing illegal images does not cause harm or additional abuse” – Our response

This comment was submitted to our site. We frequently get submissions from men which are clear attempts to erase their responsibility for sexual violence and rape culture. This one is particularly stupid:

It doesn't make any sense to say that every time someone sees illegal images of sexual abuse of minors or adults that they are once again causing harm because:
#1- The person who create the original images caused the harm, not the person viewing it or downloading it.
#2- Such material is free to fins using Shareware programs which are free online.
#3- od viewing illegal videos and illegal images is a crime then we should arrest everyone that goes online to watch terrorist attack videos, arrest anyone that goes online to view videos of the 911 plane attacks...

Does this mean that everyone that google search 911 attack is supporting terrorism and is causing terrorist harm everyone they see it...I THINK NOT!

I am not sating that sexual abuse of anyone is cool to see but viewing images and touching is not the same thing. I suggest that if someone is arrested for possession of child porn in low quantities be given a strong warning and be given a second chance without an arrest or without having to register. But if he is caught a second time repeating the same crime then he should get life in prison

EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VIEWS AN INDECENT IMAGE OR VIDEO OF A CHILD IS COMMITTING CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VIEWS AN IMAGE OR VIDEO OF AN ADULT RELEASED WITHOUT CONSENT IS COMMITTING SEXUAL ABUSE.

MEN, AND SEXUAL ABUSE AND RAPE ARE CRIMES PREDOMINANTLY COMMITTED BY MEN, MAKE A CHOICE TO COMMIT SEXUALISED VIOLENCE. THERE ARE NO VALID EXCUSES.

 

So, Omar, if you are looking at intimate images of a sexual nature taken without consent or children or adults, you are committing sexual assault. YOU ARE A PERPETRATOR. 

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4 thoughts on ““Viewing illegal images does not cause harm or additional abuse” – Our response

  • Sue Rose says:

    Let me ask you something, just suppose you discovered that your male neighbour who you had asked to baby sit your 6 month old daughter while you popped out to buy a pornographic magazine, had taken sexually explicit images of her. Would you be lenient with this man or would you want to remove his testicles via his throat?

    There is no gray area where the sexual abuse and exploitation of children is concerned. You say viewing images is not the same thing … as what? Think for a minute about the child in the photograph. They have been forced to do something they were either unwilling to do or were of such a young age that they have been led “innocently” into sexual abuse and exploitation for people to masturbate over .. people I assume like yourself? Go back to the man who is looking after your 6 month old baby. You discover as you walk back through the door that he too is masturbating over your child. Is that “ok” because he hasn’t touched her?

    You sir, are both a very stupid man but also a very dangerous one for you see the “soft punishment option” for abusers of children.

    There are no, “If’s, but’s or maybe’s” where child abuse is concerned. It is ALL illegal and it MUST be punished to the full extent of the law.

    Now answer my question honestly .. is it ok for a man to masturbate over your child and you let him off with a warning because he didn’t touch her …?

  • Emperor says:

    i do not intend to start a debate, as such this would be my only comment on this post.

    i do not like the prospect of trying to present viewing illegal materials as harmless or not causing additional abuse. the very logic you apply in your post already betrays the flaws in your idea.
    1. why would someone go to watch a terrorist attack? for educational purposes, research, knowledge, recruitment, support etc. the possible reasons are long but then some are criminal and others are not. watching terrorism for support or recruitment will get you arrest as soon asd the deligent law enforcement agents identify you. but does the same logic work for illegal images? the simple answer is from the question: why will someone want to see an illegal image? maybe for research? education? or fantasies. you post lacks any reason why it is harmless to watch illegal immages apart from the unrelated and inadequate reference you made to terrorism.

    2. do you have a child? at least you definitely have a mum. so will you like to see illegal images of her being assaulted since it is so harmless to view them; and maybe share them with you friends? why are you so INSENSITIVE to the plight and pains of the victims? is viewing the illegal images not encouraging people to make more?

    3. i hate your post for trying to defend the possession of SMALL quantities of child porn as a lesser crime. in your english language how is your SMALL QUANTITY MEASURED? 1 photo? 2 photos? 1 folder? 5 gigabytes? why is a BIG QUANTITY of child porn a bigger crime than a small quantity? what were you thinking when you posted this; were you trying to sound smart or you really believed it? if you were only to sound smart then i think you should be banned from this forum because it is not a place to show off smartness, but if you really believe it, then i think the police should be paying you a visit.

    (I KNOW POSTS ARE USUALLY MODERATED BEFORE BEING PUBLISHED ON THIS FORUM SO I NEED THE MODERATORS TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS POSTED MANAGED TO SEEP THROUGH THE FILTERS. IF IT IS CONSIDERED UP TO THE STANDARD OF THIS FORUM TO ACCEPT MATERIALS OF THE NATURE, WHERE IS IT VISIBLE TO LARGE NUMBERS OF VICTIMS SUFFERING FROM VARIOUS ABUSES BOTH PAST AND PRESENT, THEN I THINK I AM EXPECTING TOO MUCH FROM THE FORUM AND I THINK I AM IN A VERY WRONG PLACE…
    WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? A DEFENCE OF CHILD PORN POSSESSION OR AM I EXAGGERATING EVERYTHING?).

    • Admin says:

      I thought our response to the comment was quite clear:

      “This comment was submitted to our site. We frequently get submissions from men which are clear attempts to erase their responsibility for sexual violence and rape culture. This one is particularly stupid:
      ….
      EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VIEWS AN INDECENT IMAGE OR VIDEO OF A CHILD IS COMMITTING CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE.

      EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VIEWS AN IMAGE OR VIDEO OF AN ADULT RELEASED WITHOUT CONSENT IS COMMITTING SEXUAL ABUSE.

      MEN, AND SEXUAL ABUSE AND RAPE ARE CRIMES PREDOMINANTLY COMMITTED BY MEN, MAKE A CHOICE TO COMMIT SEXUALISED VIOLENCE. THERE ARE NO VALID EXCUSES.

      So, Omar, if you are looking at intimate images of a sexual nature taken without consent or children or adults, you are committing sexual assault. YOU ARE A PERPETRATOR.”

      We occasionally publish comments or posts that minimise or erase criminal responsibility, include victim blaming language or demonstrate a complete failure of empathy to demonstrate what rape culture actually looks like.

  • X says:

    The whole point of non consensual images is that they were uploaded without the persons consent.. They did not intend for anyone else to see them. So by viewing the images intentionally, you are seeking out a persons nude body without their permission. It’s like a peeping Tom really. You are looking without consent.